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December 05, 2008

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Jonathan Goodman

Charles,
This is a great post. One I expect to reference again in the future to support conversations I have on this very topic.

Two of your points I'm still thinking about in particular:

1) Selecting a firm that "acts as an extension of your management and sales team" - In addition to the criteria you list, I would add the ability to establish trust (probably a given) and selecting a firm that is a personality and cultural fit with your company. It works much like any hiring decision. The closer you work with an outsider provider, the more matters of personality and culture matter.

2) "At the core, all marketing decisions should be based on risk and spend cost-benefit analysis." I'll take issue with this statement only because it's so sweeping. You just wrote a post about Gladwell's new book Outliers. His other recent book "Blink" discusses other ways that people make smart and not so smart decisions. Rarely is strict calculation involved in the manner you prescribe for marketing investments. Years of experience educate our decision making capacity. And not all marketing value can be strictly quantified according in terms of cost of customer acquisition. I support that notion that companies should measure what can be readily (and not so readily) measured, and that data should drive decision making, but marketing investments are not all reducible to formulas.

I hope my points kick-off some further discussion. It's a very pertinent exchange of ideas, especially now when all operational expenditures are getting a very critical review.

bedard

"Risk and Spend" for decision making always applies. And everything can be measured.

You certainly make a great distinction that decisions are not all about customer acquisition; but building the brand is still a cost-benefit analysis (i.e. should I spend an hour getting an editorial in a local magazine, or focus on examining my positioning relative to my competitors, etc.).

Most of the marketing for Ephor Group as a consulting company is focused on building the brand, either creating thought leadership or other branding initiatives. My partners will attest to the fact that we measure our brand, its perception, and strength (its a quantifiable measurement system).

Great example of "risk and spend" for branding is the Salesnet branding of "No More BS from SF.com." Was highly risky (legally and from a customer and prospect positioning stand point)!

Thanks for the discussion!!

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